Model dies on the catwalk
August 6th, 2006
A young Uruguayan model died of heart failure while participating in a fashion show during Fashion Week in Montevideo (Uruguay), according to officials at the hotel where the show was held. 22 year-old Luisel Ramos felt ill after walking the catwalk, fainted on her way to the dressing room and died in spite of the medical attention she received from a mobile hospital unit.
The doctors who treated her diagnosed her with heart failure. The young woman’s father told police that the model had gone several days without eating. In Uruguay’s close neighbor, Argentina, more and more women are struggling with body obsession. The USA leads the world in deaths caused by eating disorders, followed by Japan and Germany.
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1. Linda Morand | August 10th, 2006 at 4:51 pm
I think it as a terrible shame that these models of today are forced to be so thin. Who wants to look like skin and bones? This poor girl! And her family.
In my day, although Twiggy was stick thin, most of the models were a size 6. Now they have to be a 2 or less. It is inhuman! Why are we accepting this impossible “ideal?”
2. Heather | August 11th, 2006 at 10:44 pm
It is a pity that their diet has to make them so slim and with serious consequences on their health. That is the biggest price you can pay for so-called beauty.
3. Flaria | August 14th, 2006 at 3:14 am
So sad, people look at model pictures everyday and compare themselves to them. People don’t need to starve themselves to look better.
4. Caitlin | August 31st, 2006 at 2:44 pm
In response to Linda Morand, today almost all models are a size 4, not a 2. Also, no one is keeping these models from eating. Sure, modeling contributes to their eating disorders, but it’s not like someone is keeping food from them.
5. diana | September 2nd, 2006 at 4:36 am
it’s true what linda said, to be a model you have to be a size 2 or less, i work in the industry and i know what i’m talking about, at least to be a runway model. unfortunately the dream of a lot of girls is to be a model and they have to shoose between getting slim or not to be on the runway. it’s a shame what happen to the model last week.
6. chewtoy45 | September 15th, 2006 at 4:36 pm
According to her father, she hadn’t eaten in two weeks. What a very sad thing she had to go to such desperate lengths to maintain an unnatural body weight. My prayers go out to her family.
7. chewtoy45 | September 15th, 2006 at 10:39 pm
It’s also been reported she ate nothing but green leaves (coca leaves, perhaps?) and Diet Coke for the three months leading up to the show.
8. KK | September 16th, 2006 at 7:10 am
Firstly, new reports from the boyfriend said she went out with him and friends for pizza the night before.
Secondly, a size 2 today USED to be a size 6 in years prior.
Thirdly, everything else I read is right. THere is too much pressure for women and girls to look like emaciated bags of bones. (But still with large breasts!) How perverse we have gotten. And why? Since such a large percentage of adults and children are actually obese… what’s the point of using models who look nothing like the population who will actually BUY the clothes!
Would be interesting to see a designer use models who are size 6 to 14. Wonder what would happen?
9. lui | September 17th, 2006 at 8:44 pm
the people that support such small weight standards in the fashion industry should try starving a few days to do their money hungry jobs- i am sure they would realize how difficult and unhealthy this system really is. God bless Luisel and her family, hopefullly some positive change will come from such a tragedy.
10. colbert | September 18th, 2006 at 6:07 am
yes..its crazy..subsconsciously all fashion agents are making their models size Zero to fit into small outfits
11. Pretty Hot and Thick | September 18th, 2006 at 10:51 am
As dopey as it is, this movie will hopefully change the way we see women and the way women see themselves.
Phat = Pretty Hot and Thick
Thick and healthy is much better than sick and skinny.
Please eat
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0490196/
12. Carolyn | September 21st, 2006 at 5:24 pm
I am a size 10/12 and walked into a Neiman Marcus yesterday… Shocked that 95% of the clothes for sale were size 00 to 2! I seriously could not find a size 4 or above and these were for $1,200 blouses, etc.
Who buys these things anyway?
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14. Gladys | September 25th, 2006 at 7:55 pm
omigod, she was so pretty, its a really shame the fashion world puts all this pressure on the girls, to look frankly unwomenly and portray the wrong body image to children/teens, the clothing industry needs to wake up and realize no 1 can look like dat/the way the want without putting there life at risk
Model clothes on real women, after all there being bought by real women.
15. jenny stein | September 25th, 2006 at 8:58 pm
It wasn’t fasting that killed her, but probably an unhealthy life style. Lots of people fast in a healthy way. Girls have to learn to accept responsibility for their actions instead of blaming someone else for it.
16. Rose | September 26th, 2006 at 6:24 am
It costs designers less money in fabrics to dress skinier model…
It’s a trende,real people see as a fantasy.
Like small waist in 1600’s,or when blonds were considered wich.
17. Tisheenyu | September 26th, 2006 at 11:21 pm
This is very sad.
18. puffstar | September 27th, 2006 at 6:22 pm
It was only a matter of time before this happens. these girls have no idea what strain their bodies are under when they emaciate themselves. im surprised it hasnt happend more often. bring on the size 0 ban!!!
19. Dominique Martin | September 29th, 2006 at 2:32 am
I think it very sad that this girls life was cut short over a harmful suggestion someone told her. I am totally suprize that her father didnt intervene since he told officials that his daughter didnt hadnt eaten in days. I think that would be a cause for concern if I were her parent even though she still may have well died from her prolong starvation. I have heard many cases where young women who were models had eating disorders because they were told they were too fat. Its a shame that the world feels that women aren’t beautiful unless they are ultra skinny. But as women, we should learn to love who we are and not let someone tell us that we are perfect because we may not fit the description of what is beautiful.
20. Dominique Martin | September 29th, 2006 at 2:34 am
I think it very sad that this girls life was cut short over a harmful suggestion someone told her. I am totally suprize that her father didnt intervene since he told officials that his daughter didnt hadnt eaten in days. I think that would be a cause for concern if I were her parent even though she still may have well died from her prolong starvation. I have heard many cases where young women who were models had eating disorders because they were told they were too fat. Its a shame that the world feels that women aren’t beautiful unless they are ultra skinny. But as women, we should learn to love who we are and not let someone tell us that we arent perfect because we may not fit the description of what is beautiful.
21. geegee | October 9th, 2006 at 4:02 am
Damn! its such a tragedy that a person can die at a young age from starvation that did not have to occur. Ramos was such a pretty young girl too. I feel very sad for her family. RIP Luisel
22. redwerkz&hellip | October 20th, 2006 at 1:02 am
Prost Mahlzeit!…
Gammelfleisch hin oder her, einfach nichts essen ist auch keine Lösung: Ein Model verreckt auf dem Weg in die Umkleide. Und wer dachte 5XXL wär krass, muss mal an das andere Ende der Kleiderstange gucken: Size Zero, Klamotten für Frauen in der Grös……
23. walfer101 | October 30th, 2006 at 4:38 pm
RIP Luisel.
As everyone has said it is such a shame that this young woman has died but there are so many young woman who day possibly, daily due to these pressures. I myself and quite a few of my friends have suffered from eating disorders and it is not a question of actually eating it is a mental disease first and foremost and the worry of putting on weight. Unfortunately all those women in the business world and the model world are thin and are protrayed as being perfect. So every ambitious woman wants to have it all- decent job, nice lifestyle, fashionable clothes, gorgeous guy on the arm etc and we are told through different mediums that to achieve all this we should be thin.
Coming back to one point another person wrote regarding Luisel’s father stating that she hadn’t eaten and that he should of done something. In all honesty you cannot force feed someone and when you are that far down the road, you lie and make it look like you have eaten something.
The fashion industry has got worse in terms of what sizes it uses but we are a population and audience are buying the magazines which publish this pictures of the celebrities who are skinny etc…. it is a really hard battle and one which is very scary as it is getting seriously out of hand.
24. COOL NERD!!! | November 14th, 2006 at 2:58 am
i dont know what to say about this.
banning over skinny model does not work… look, as far as i know, most (and I MEAN M-O-S-T 95%) of the models have a really skinny body that weigh under 120 lbs. Most are at about 105 to 113 lbs! Agencies usually accepts only tall girls, from 5′8 to 6′0. Now, by going with BMI, most will obviously fail the test, since most have a BMI 15 to 16.5…
Although this rule seems outrageous from the model and fashion industry’s perceptive, i am surpirised to hear the tragic story of 22-year-old Luisel Ramos’s death. Thats just unbelievable, from an average person’s point of view. unbelievable… “on a diet and hadn’t eaten for three days.” Now that has PUSHED wayyy over the LINE. on a diet??? AND then not eat ANYTHING for 3 straight days (9 meals)!!! i am sure that this happens all the time, and the press/media is understating it… in other words, its worse.
now back to the topic, the new restriction may be, in my opinion, the first step of a compromise… but fashion industry is slowly beginning to accept a “new” way to advertize their close.
25. Layer 8 | November 16th, 2006 at 8:23 pm
Luisel in August, and Ana Carolina Reston of Brasil dies on 11/14 also. She was 5′8 and weighed 88lbs.
It’s insane what these fashion houses are demanding of their models and disturbing that there are models out there who do this to themselves.
These are models that are looked upon by millions of children and other aspiring models and is a BAD example.
Until the fashion houses start being held accountable for their actions, tragic stories like these will continue to make headlines.
26. Julia | November 16th, 2006 at 9:02 pm
Everone should boycott ANY designer or product that uses these stick figures to sell us their clothing or product!
27. Barb | November 16th, 2006 at 11:39 pm
Half of the world is starving. For real.
And we try to starve ourselves to death just to fit some insane idea of a perfect woman. It is insane.
28. BadCompany | November 17th, 2006 at 12:12 am
Skin and Bones! What man thinks that this is seXXXy? Be honest now. As a man, would you go to bed and have sex with a female that is 88 pounds? Yuck! NOT ME! I prefer my partner to have a little meat on her bones. Any of the designers that use skeletal models for their shows should be boycotted. It is NOT sexy! It is WRONG!Let the dumbass designers starve themselves for months, weigh 88 Pounds and see haow they like it.
29. Mariella | November 17th, 2006 at 1:07 am
I was born in Montevideo Uruguay and although I’ve never had an interest in modeling, I know that for an aspiring model in that part of the world, it’s even more difficult. The working opportunities in this field are almost nonexistant in a small country, and for this young aspiring model to entertain the possibility of a popular runway, it probably meant the opportunity of a lifetime. As passive observers we know what that entailed… to compete in size… and be the slimest one there! I feel for the young woman, the family and more importantly, for all the young models out there that are being forced to compete in size. Legislature must be passed in all continents to admit in the runways only those models with an acceptable BMI and no one else… and if any of these young women, have psychological problems and are therefore not maintaining their weight, then they need help and not the backing of an entire fashion industry!
30. mother of a girl | November 17th, 2006 at 1:53 am
Are you aware that some of the most influencial names in the fashion industry are gay men? I am not trying to sound homophobic in the least, in fact, a few of my friends are gay. The point is… why should men who like men dictate how women should look like to be attractive??? It is bound to be the wrong image. Sadly enough, it is so ingrained in todays psyche, that quite a few of the emails before (and I thought exactly the same thing) mentioned how beautiful the girl is. Ironically, she was also very ill. In the same that a very obese woman can be. And we would not dream of calling her beautiful.
31. Googolygoo | November 17th, 2006 at 3:23 am
It’s natural selection, folks. And make no mistake, Caitlin and KK, very, very few people are naturally that thin. Clearly you have never had any exposure to the modelling industry beyond reading VOGUE. If they eat, they don’t work.
The agents tell them how to become ketonic (basically the body eats itself for nutrientsP, and these girls’ parents killed their daughters by permitting them to engage in these behaviours from the time they’re 13 and younger.
No one needs a manual to teach them Starvation = Death. Sally Struthers tells us that daily, and if they do need to be told that, they’re too stupid to live, anyway.
Obviously.
They’re vapid, uneducated, scrawny, misguided and now, dead, thanks to greed and the desire for fame.
I think it’s funny as hell!
32. Sam | November 17th, 2006 at 4:00 am
It isn’t sad. It is appaling that society wants this to be this way. You YOU want it that way and promote it buy watching TV and reading the newspapers and magazines and being persuaded by all those advertisements, which you then go and purchase because calvin kline or burberry is worth it to you.
33. cassandra | November 17th, 2006 at 4:40 am
I think it is a shame that models are under wait. The weight doesn’t resemble beauty, personality does. Trying to be pretty doesn’t take losing weight, not everything in life has to be perfect. There is no such thing that says you have to be 100 pounds or less to be a model or to stay a model it takes personality and attitude, its not always looks that get u into popular groups and fashion statements.
34. Shannon | November 17th, 2006 at 6:53 am
Young girls need to realize that models are only thin and tall because they are not supposed to compete with the clothes they are modelling, they are basically a hanger and all the focus is supposed to be on the clothes. They are not thin because it is “sexy” or “in.” Young girls need to wake up and realize the difference, and hopefully one day the modelling industry wakes up and requires their models to pass physicals and be in good health even if they are skinny.
35. Alessandra V. | November 17th, 2006 at 8:12 am
In response to Caitlyn, one of the first few posts…
I did several high fashion jobs from NY to Milan, and sadly, no, most models today are definitely not anywhere near a size 4. I’d say the average is definitely a size 2, if not 0. Although Tommy Hilfiger and some brands like those do promote healthier women on the runway. But for the big designers, they want skinny. 115 or less.
36. michael | November 17th, 2006 at 9:43 am
No, we don’t need these young ladies starving themselves to be pencil thin. However, there is nothing wrong with being a healthy thin. Seems to me the ones that latch on to this and scream the loudest are the ones with butts the size of Texas. They report how many die from anorexia but not how many die from being grossly overweight…which is a far bigger problem in the US.
37. rebecca | November 17th, 2006 at 4:10 pm
Having been an anorexic X 30 yrs., starting 1970, I can say it is a mental illness.
In my day, it was make-up, lighting & angle-shots.
Now it’s plastic surgery & computer-enhanced photos wh/ no one can live up to naturally, even the girls in the photos.
I was insecure & felt all I could improve on was my looks; after all, it got me places.
However, thru yrs. of education, hard work in career (medical), experience, & perseverence, I’m confident & happier than ever. Appearance is secondary to what I am & can offer (but still considered attractive @ 49.)
For 5 yrs. been doing what is now called ‘ Intuitive Dieting’… eating What I want When I want it … just til satiation; I listen to my body. People say my facial lines have filled out & I now have a butt, & look younger.
Bottom line: Work on your Brain … Body will follow.
Looks fade.
No one can Give you self-esteem … you have to Earn it by accomplishments, succeeding in your career, & being independent. No one can do that For you. You must do it !
38. emoxlies | November 17th, 2006 at 4:14 pm
The reason why models are thin is because clothes hang better on thin people. The fabircs generally look more flattering on thin people.
No one in the fashion industry are saying this is hot, this is sexy. They are just advertising clothes.
Its the people who look at the clothes on the models who deicded if they percive it as attractive.
I really feel for this models family. Eating Disorders are one of the biggest killers of all mental illness. Its really sad.
I also know that most guys prefer skinny girls.
Out of all my friends the ones who are skinny always seem to have boyfriends and have guys after them. Me and some other friends are sizes 12/14 (UK) and none of us have boyfriends and rarley get guys asking us out.
39. notfatjustkindoflumpy | November 18th, 2006 at 6:04 pm
Anorexia is a mental disorder. No reasonable person thinks that 88 pounds on a 5′8″ frame is going to look good on the catwalk or anywhere else. All girls need body image counseling - starting in grade school. Exercise, not dieting needs to be encouraged. Exercise makes you look better than dieting, and it makes you feel better, and look younger, too. It’s only hard to start. Starvation ruins your skin, your teeth, your hair, and makes you look sick, not beautiful. It also ruins your metabolism for life. Not everyone can be a size 0. Some bodies are designed to be bigger. But you don’t have to be fat to be healthy. Overweight is not the problem when you’re 5′8″ and 115 pounds - it’s just a distribution problem. Not everyone has a perfect body, and dieting isn’t always the answer. The smartest thing someone ever said to me was, “You’re not fat. You just hate your body.”
40. Julieta | November 18th, 2006 at 8:26 pm
someone said better to die thin than live fat…so sad comment.
i believe that food is a gift and a pleasure, we all should enjoy that. Everything with measure ends good…you can eat well without gaining weigth there’s no need for starvation.
It’s easy to make comments when you’re not inside that world and im not justifyng anything or anyone…both anorexia and bulimia seem to be horrible diseases
41. Velvet in furs | November 18th, 2006 at 10:32 pm
There are plenty of people who are naturally that thin! Do you really believe every person in the world who is slim has an eating disorder? And for all the people who claim to be in the industry, there alot of models who are size four! true they have some who are 2 and zero. But someone who is 5′10 or taller and wears size 4 may appear to be smaller. My favorite model Daria is think but she is not below 115 pounds I know for a fact. You dont have to be in the industry I get every high fashion magazine everymonth and some are super skinny but remember most of them are like sixteen!!!! The really sad thing is that insurance for the most part wont cover help for eating disorders but will for overweight people who want surgery. And look at America its not following the trend 60% of usa are over weight
42. Velvet in furs | November 18th, 2006 at 10:34 pm
This girl had problems, noone thinks that being that thin is sexy
43. Velvet in furs | November 18th, 2006 at 10:37 pm
O to make it clear I didnt mean people are naturally as thin as this girl but some are like other models…and think about how many models walking the runway are under the age of 18. majority are about 14 when they start
44. Juliet | November 19th, 2006 at 11:41 am
Hi. I’m a fashion student in Milan and I’m completly disgusted by the whole “thin is beautifu” attitude. I have a drawing class in which we are encouraged to draw the figures of women as thin as posible. It’s outrageous - I dropped that class last week and will not be drawing any more stick thin models. When I graduate from school, I’m going to have my own agenda in fashion and it will not be about telling people what beauty is and what it’s not. It’s will be about finding beauty in all people - whatever their size, color and shape, and helping them enhance it. I agree that most fashion designers here are gay men and these should be the LAST people telling women anything about being beutiful or sexy or whatever . . . . and the LAST people women should be listening to. Isn’t this a twisted, upside down world we live in??? Women, please love yourselves.
45. Dani | November 19th, 2006 at 12:06 pm
Yes, I think it’s a tragedy that yet another fashion model has starved herself to death. However, I think that the public has always taken a stance that it is SOLELY the fashion industry’s fault that these young women choose to radically starve themselves to become successful in the business. As a person who has known a few anorexics and bulimics, these two disorders are typically the sign of something more that is wrong with the individual. Just as television doesn’t make people kill one another, the fashion industry did not make these girls starve themselves to the point of death. Anorexia nervosa results in a lot of young women who feel the need to control their bodies with starvation when they cannot control anything else. It’s a PSYCHOLOGICAL issue that needs to be addressed.
Second, the fashion industry is not for the everyday woman. It is the art and beauty of what these designers do that make the fashion industry what it is, and those who can afford the clothes, really get to enjoy them in their full capacity. Fashion is another form of art that not everyone appreciates. Granted, the average American woman is a size 14, and most Americans are obese, but the Fashion Industry has NOTHING to do with this or with the death of these young women. We all have pressure, we all have problems, and some of us manifest them in a way that can and will lead to our deaths if the signs are not spotted soon enough.
It is a tragedy, but to blame an industry for the deaths of these two troubled young women, I think that’s also a tragedy.
46. Velvet in furs | November 19th, 2006 at 5:01 pm
I agree 100%
47. Velvet in furs | November 19th, 2006 at 5:05 pm
but can I also say that being a size 14 as a norm isnt good either. If your healthy thats fine but being under 5′4 and that size cant be healthy or comfterable.
48. Sarah | November 20th, 2006 at 8:51 am
“the fashion industry did not make these girls starve themselves to the point of death”
Sorry, but the industry is one factor leading to this poor girl’s death. She worked in a career that is solely based on looks, for Christ’s sake.
“Second, the fashion industry is not for the everyday woman.”
It doesn’t matter what your “station” in life is, there is no excuse to parade women who look like pre-pubescent girls with a drug habit down the runway. Do you know why? Because the “common folk” do pay attention to these women, especially young girls.
“Granted, the average American woman is a size 14, and most Americans are obese”
A size 14 is not “obese.” Plus, most Americans aren’t “obese” either.
49. Sarah | November 20th, 2006 at 8:54 am
The reason why models are thin is because clothes hang better on thin people. The fabircs generally look more flattering on thin people.
Maybe these fashion designers should use dummies them. There is nothing “flattering” about hip bones that protrude from a sheer gown.
“I also know that most guys prefer skinny girls.”
Wrong. Men like women who are average-sized.
50. Sarah | November 20th, 2006 at 8:56 am
“Are you aware that some of the most influencial names in the fashion industry are gay men? I am not trying to sound homophobic in the least, in fact, a few of my friends are gay. The point is… why should men who like men dictate how women should look like to be attractive???”
Is it any wonder to you that these gay designers use models that look like young boys?
51. Eva | November 20th, 2006 at 12:11 pm
i’ve read some of the reactions i was shocked by some of the reactions…hope, really hope that some of you are 16 and can use that as an expanantion of your ignorance!!
first of all, to blame the father that he did nothing to make his daughter eat??? do you really thing a dad would not do everything he could to help?? christ, you should be ashamed…you should read some books about the topic before telling shit…people with anorexia nervosa: NOTHING helps if they do not see the problem; they do not see themselves so skinny, the have a deformed image of themselves and see no harm in their behaviour…and you can’t make them eat, and if you do, they will find a way to get it out of their body..then, anorexia starts really in a stupid and harmless way….it’s not something these girls plan to do when they start modelling…they try to eat healthy but then…there’s someone who tells them that if they drop a few pounds they would be asked more to do the bigger shows; they promise all sorts of things, girls that are a bit insecure or need the confirmation from others are really in a danger zone…
then, the comments on the designers, keep it normal please…we can put the responsability in their shoes, but for a designer it is just simpler to dress girls who all have the same size 36 instead of 40: girls who have 36 fit in all their clothes without imperfections; size 40 for example, you take 100 woman, 1 skirt and pants size 40; bet not all woman fit in those items, just because there is a difference of bodyfat; the one has more fat on the belly, the other on the arse…that is the reason why they have to be so thin…but, girls who have size 38 have normal bmi and could do the job as well, so designers, girls, model offices, they all have a certain amount of responsability…just change the image of the fashion world by putting normal girls on stage and girls…if you eat healthy and still cant get in a 38; so be it; god, it’s your constitution and take peace with it…if you are not intelligent enough, it’s not that you are going to start the studies of a lawyer are you??wel; if you are not thin enough, find yourself another job please, being a model is not that great!!
52. michael | November 20th, 2006 at 2:33 pm
Sarah — you need to quit reading what everyone else is writing (and duplicating it) and come up with some original thoughts. Now, if you want to read you need to get into the American Medical Journals and read statistics on obesity and overweight people….YES, America is FAT and OVERWEIGHT and OBESE…and no, most women in a size 14 do not look good. The problem is we as Americans have looked at each other growing larger and larger every year that we are willing to accept what we look like now. The rest of the world doesn’t have the gluttony that we enjoy and they ARE NOT fat…and they are not an average size 14! We accept that because we want to because it’s easier than looking in the mirror and being disguted with what we see. The real imortance of all this is the serious health issues caused by all this weight. My wife is 5′ tall and weighs 100 pounds…she is a marathon runner and is in GREAT shape. I used to shop for her at Petite Sophisticate when you would buy clothes for people like her…now, petite means you’re 5′ tall but you might weigh 180 pounds! I think it’s time people stop rationalizing the size of their butts and get off that monstrosity and do something about it…do you have to be anorexic…no! That is what started all this and we haven’t lost focus because the issues are so closely related. I still say there are two sad pictures here…the death of an anorexic woman and the 5′2″ size 14 that is headed for health issues. Neither are good but then we aren’t talking about the 14 dying are we?
53. concerned previous model | November 20th, 2006 at 10:51 pm
Why does having been beautiful make everyone say it’s a shame. Even if she wasn’t beautiful it’s still a shame. She was just starting her life. I had an eating disorder when in my teens and dieted to a very unhealthy weight due to modeling pressures, my parents stopped that madness in it’s tracks. Because they saw how unhappy I was, misserable is more the word. Parents & family pay attention to your aspiring models and make sure that their bones are not overtaking them, no amount of money can buy back your health or life in this instant. To hell with high fashion, if thats the case. Only the rich can afford what their selling anyway. Buy Walmart or Target, still clothing and much more affordable.
54. girl with an eating disorder | November 20th, 2006 at 11:32 pm
A size 14 is not the same as it once was. It now is considered obese on someone who is 5′4″ or less because of how huge sizes have gotten. A size 2 at A&F is a 25-26″ waist and 35-36″ hips which is actually healthy according to doctors standards on someone of 5′4″. America’s views on what is thin and what is fat are so skewed now. People seem to think that overweight and obese sizes are now ok because 3/4 of American’s are overweight. And people of healthy weights are often labeled as too skinny or underweight even if they are the poster child for healthy weight. And you know what’s sad? A lot of those 3/4 of people who are overweight have an eating disorder, just not anorexia or bulimia, they probably suffer from compulsive overeating or related. It’s sad that people are so concerned with anorexia when obesity is the number one killer of people in the US and the causes and probable eating disorders are not being dealt with! Anorexia only hits about 1% of young women, I can assure you the percentage of women who are putting their lives on the line with over eating disorders is far larger. Is our society putting too much focus on being thin? Statistics show otherwise. It seems we are really placing too much focus on being unhealthy in the other direction, obesity.
Anyways. I have an eating disorder (bulimia and anorexia). I’ve had food issues my entire life. I can say for certainty that modeling or seeing models have never had an effect on me. I don’t think anyone here really knows what anorexia is or it’s causes. It’s rooted a lot deeper than “hey, I want to be thin”. I was abused as a child, picked on in school for being poor and having a big forehead and poofy hair. I’ve dated a man who had hit me, and one who verbally abuses me. It’s things like that that’s fueling eating disorders. Most of these girls don’t have perfect lives. Sure, of course having photographers and agents telling you that you are fat fuels it even more but it’s not where it starts. It’s a psychological disease, like bi-polar or schitzophrenia, it’s not a diet, and it is most certainly not a choice.
55. girl with an eating disorder | November 20th, 2006 at 11:37 pm
http://vivirlatino.com/2006/08/08/debate-over-uruguayan-models-cause-of-death.php
So she didn’t have an eating disorder afterall!
56. Kate | November 21st, 2006 at 9:31 am
Man Michael maybe you and ‘girl with an eating disorder’ should try enlisting in the SS. Perhaps Mike you should be looking in gay bars or the 4th grade for bodies built to your liking. If you take the slightest look back at history (not counting the torture device corset) women have always been soft; large hips, thighs, breasts, arms and a soft slightly rounded stomach. What happened to the Marilyn Monroe lovers? Sarah is absolutley a smart girl who has it dead on. Have the two of you ever thought that women are also larger now because people are getting taller and broader? How many Shaquille O Neal size basketball players did you see in the 1920s? My great grandma was 4′11 my grandma-5′4 my mother 5′6 and I am 5′10. I couldn’t believe that anorexia is being justified on this post because “it could be worse they could be fat instead” I loved what “previous model” said why does everyone say “that’s a shame, she was pretty” would it not be a shame otherwise? Is she a better person because of how DNA mapped out her face? How dare you come on here Michael, someone with no freaking idea what its like to be a woman, and basically say if we are not your 11 year old boy-wife we should “look in the mirror and be disgusted”
Right on you smart ladies on this post! You make us proud.
As for Mike, my husband always says: 9 out of 10 men prefer a woman with curves while the 1 out of 10 prefers the 9 out of 10 men.
57. michael | November 21st, 2006 at 10:15 am
Kate — basically what you said supports what I was saying. So what your family was 4′11, 5′4, 5′′6 and you are 5′10. It’s not the height that makes you overweight and unhealthy…at 5′10 how much do you weigh? Are you a size 14 — for a lady that height a 14 might be right on. I would dare say any lady that was 4′11 or 5′4 and was a size 14 was overweight and unhealthy. And what’s wrong with Marilyn Monroe? I think she was a beautiful woman and she had great curves…but she wasn’t a size 14…look it up. And your husband is right…men do like curves…not rolls.
Yes, people are getting taller and broader but we’re talking PROPORTION here. In the US we have gotten broader far faster than taller and justify it all you want but read the health statistics. People don’t die from getting taller and taller isn’t detrimental to good health. And who said anorexia was a good thing? Twisting my words? Just because my wife is petite doesn’t mean she or I support anorexia…quite the contrary since we have experienced it in our family. She is healthy and I dare say if her petite 100 pound frame with the muscles she has deverloped from running walked by, 9 out of 100 men would look at her…I see it all the time. Not everyone wants to be petite and that’s okay…she was born that way and exercises a lot. But, for those that are overweight to point fingers at every petite person and say “Yuck” is wrong. As I said, thin doesn’t necessarily mean anorexic. We feel for those ladies (and men) that suffer from this disease…but like so many other sins of our world it is a choice. We pray for those that engage in it to make a better choice. And we’ll also include those that choose to be overweight.
And you dare me not knowing what it’s like to be a woman…yet you asked your husband his opinion on what a man likes? Why can’t I have the same right to ask my wife or my formerly anorexic sister or sister in law? And because my wife was born petite (DNA coded as you say) and chooses to be healthy you call her an 11 year old boy? My wife is quite content with what she see’s in the mirror and so am I…I think it is you that looks in the mirror and doesn’t like what she see’s…and you feel compelled to trash those that do bu calling them names.
58. michael | November 21st, 2006 at 10:18 am
P.S. Kate — I never was speaking of JUST women…this problem is not gender specific…nor did I mention just women when I spoke of weight issues…sorry I hit that nerve.
59. Lala | November 21st, 2006 at 4:12 pm
9 out of 10 men prefer a woman with curves while the 1 out of 10 prefers the 9 out of 10 men.
Too bad most women in the US who are under the delusion they are “curvy”are hideously fat. Curves are a fairly small waist with a larger chest, hips, a rounder butt, and proportionate legs. So few women have this body type; Curvy does not mean you hove rolls of fat slopping out of the waistband of your jeans.
Not all men prefer fatsos. It is more than appearance; it is personality and likeablity and chemistry. Go figure!
60. brittany93 | November 21st, 2006 at 5:59 pm
Its disgusting is what it is. Designers use these thing models as clothes hangers. If the clothes do not fit, the girls do not model. The clothes are so small because of the use of less fabric, less fabric = less cost. But its costing these girls their lives. Ana Carolina was 88 pounds and 5′6″. I”m 5′6″ and absolutely not 88lbs. Not even that close. Its the scariest thing seeing girls who are so young who could have a fantastic future ahead of them doing something else throw away their lives like this. I’m 18 and go to an all-girls high school, and I see this stuff all the time. Its pathetic. Its sad. Its a shame. I seriously hope that one day in my lifetime designers take the model’s lives into consideration instead of their clothing lines. I understand that it is the choice of the model to do what she wants and eat how she wants, but the pressure to fit into those outfits is not their fault.
The day we all change will be a great one.
61. michele | November 21st, 2006 at 6:22 pm
ok I just want to add whatever happened to the models like CINDY CRAWFORD, CLAUDIA SCHIFFER, CHRISTY TURLINGTON, NIKI TAYLOR, NAOMI CAMPBELL, etc…..not those were supermodels to me. they were thin enough but i think its societies fault for gettting thinner and thinner throughout the years. and actually embracing it and excepting it as a norm. I dson’t even think models are as pretty as they wer ein the 90’s. those women were still thinner than the average woman but they were not emaciated like some models today. I think they need more models out there who look like that again. Designers loved them. I have not been impressed with any models since then. They are not even as pretty…..what happened?????
62. Lara | November 21st, 2006 at 6:40 pm
I used to be really skinny all my life. When I was 19 I only weighted 98 pounds at 5′5″. However that was just my genetics. I used to eat everything, even drink protein shakes to put on weight but that was just the way I was. I always resented that there was so much help and pills out there for people who wanted to loose weight but none for people like me who wanted to gain. Now at 25 I put on some weight, I am 125 pounds after having a baby. I try to eat a lot so I don’t loose any weight. I don’t think being extra skinny is beautiful. I hated being skinny and I am glad I put on some weight, I feel sexier and my husband couldn’t be happier.
63. michael | November 21st, 2006 at 6:43 pm
Go Lala!
64. sasha | November 22nd, 2006 at 2:33 am
girl with eating disorder–
have you tried to look for help? i recommend you and look for a therapist online. i think any therapist could work with you on this, but some specify that they actually specialize in eating disorders. my friend did it and it helped her a lot!
i am noone to judge you, but i’d like to offer my advice: there are ceirtainly a lot of people out there who will love you and treat you in a loving way. don’t let problems of your childhood overcome you and take the best of you. you don’t deserve that. it’s your life, you get to take control. admire yourself, be strong and develop the lifestyle you are looking for. it’s never too late to start- so why not start now. it’s all about how well you carry yourself. people respect you when they see that you respect yourself and will not let them destroy you. i learned that the hard way. when i was younger i used to let people shove me around and lost my self esteem. with time i learned that people are no better than you and will stop doing that when you show self-confidence. now i find all my attributes beautiful. just by being unique you are beautiful already!
anorexia is not like bipolar disorder. bipolar disorder is a chemical imbalance in your body for which you might have to take medication; anorexia and bulimia are more psychological and are also completely curable!
an additional comment: i don’t believe someone who has some fat sticking out of their jeans is necssarily fat. i’m sorry if you think that. that’s generalizing.
for the rest of the readers: it’s not about dishing people but coming together for a greater cause. we need to educate ourselves on these issues and help those around us who need us, and look for help when we need it too.
65. Velvet in furs | November 22nd, 2006 at 9:03 am
Im 5′9 and size 3/4 I get accused of having a eating disorder all the time because americas view on weight really is messed up. Look at the world we are the fattest. I eat healthy and workout and you know what I look better than someone obese and I know I feel better. Our generation will be the first not to outlive our parents and its sad. You can blame gay designers or whatever you people are claiming but they make great clothing and these models wouldnt be huge and in magazines if women editors werent letting them appear in vouge, haapers, W ,elle and so on. This goes alot deeper
66. michael | November 22nd, 2006 at 10:12 am
Sasha / Velvet — great comments…only thing Sasha…she said “Rolls of fat slopping” which I doubt means what you were saying. I see ladies all the time with “fat” hanging out of their jeans…it’s not really fat and it’s not unattractive necessarily, it’s that their jeans are two sizes too small! But hey, if they can get through the day with them then great.
67. K | November 23rd, 2006 at 5:59 pm
I suffered with anorexia for a year, at the age of 13. I would skip breakfast and eat a few apple slices for lunch. At home, my parents would force me to eat dinner but I would eat as little as possible. Everyday was hell for me. I lost all energy and got by day by day barely eating. My family was so concerned and cried over my appearance. I got counseling and overcame the illness. I’m 14 now and I am in the 9th grade. Today, my friends think of me as this skinny girl who eats whatever she wants because of her fast metabolism. That is true, but what they don’t know is I was once anorexic.
This model’s story is a very sad one. In my opinion, not getting help for a deadly ilness like this is like killing yourself. It is not anyone’s fault, but you can’t expect to eat barely anything and stay alive. You eat to provide your body with the nutrients it needs. When you don’t get enough of them your body shuts down. Anyone with anorexia can get better, you can be happy.
68. michael | November 24th, 2006 at 12:37 pm
Bless you “K” for being so strong at such a young age. Hang in there young lady — your beauty is obvious in your words.
69. --tiagre-- | November 25th, 2006 at 3:26 pm
We have a major problem here. With our diets rich in fat, salt and sugar, we wouldn’t be happy with our bodies at a healthy weight, let alone having to see images of starved girls titled: ‘Beautiful’ and ‘Perfect’. These girls are not perfect, they have a problem and it needs to be treated, not ignored and inflicted on the rest of us.
70. zor | November 25th, 2006 at 10:46 pm
“YES, America is FAT and OVERWEIGHT and OBESE…and no, most women in a size 14 do not look good.”
This is to you, dearest Michael, who made this statement. I am appalled that you must judge women based on their size. It is not the larger people to blame, nor the skinny models. BOTH have mental incapabilities that force themselves to console their selves with food, or to not eat for fear of gaining weight.
And who are YOU to judge who looks good?
I am appalled at all of your reactions. Don’t blame fat people for being fat and skinny people for being skinny. Do you all not see that it is all ADVERTISING? Advertising is engineered to attack your weaknesses for certain products, whether that be a certain ideal weight/clothing size, food, toys, etc.
71. La La | November 27th, 2006 at 6:11 am
Revolting. It’s like in professional body building - EVERYONE else is on steroids and you can’t compete without following suit. So, to whoever said “no one is forcing these girls to be skinny” - there’s unbelievable pressure to be thin in the industry. Let’s hope the pendulum swings and natural, healthy bodies go back in vogue! (Ergh - that’d be the day)
72. michael | November 27th, 2006 at 10:10 am
It’s all about choice zor — not sure about “mental incapabilities” unless you’re blaming that on your choice…
Judging? Who was judging? Do I look at over weight people and judge? I’d be lying if I said “no.” I judge them when I see them goobling down a bag of fries and the fat is hanging over both sides of the chair. Other than that, I don’t judge them any more than you judged my comments…my dear.
This all started with a bunch of people “judging” thin people and saying how sick it was…my original comment(s) involved more than the thin…I said “Yes, anorexia is an illness and a sad one…but lets not forget that we as a nation have a bigger problem in obesity and over weightness.” I have many friends (and family) who are over weight and “look good.” I could care less how they look…I am more concerned about how they feel. I am concerned about their health and the problems they cause themselves and every other tax payer (in respect to medical issues).
And you want to blame advertising for people being too fat and too thin? Must be those mental incapabilities you were referring to.
73. tami | November 27th, 2006 at 4:14 pm
gay designers want skinny boysih looking models, cos´ that´s the only way designers can identify with the female body.
74. Anna Bretten | November 27th, 2006 at 5:32 pm
Good Lord, gay men are not all identical, any more than straight men (or gay and straight women). Generalisations like the ones above are just like racism. Get to know some people who are different from you, and you’ll find out that they are real people, not stereotypes.
As far I am concerned (going back to the basic ‘how thin is too thin?’ question), too thin is when you have a BMI under 18.5, and too fat is when you have a BMI over 25. This is a range currently espoused by doctors as the healthy range, and doesn’t draw on ‘dress sizes’, which keep changing, or heights, which are increasing.
I’d really like it if all the fashion shows were required not to use under weight OR over weight models.
75. Rose | November 27th, 2006 at 9:55 pm
This is no doubt a tradegy. But what should be promoted is health, not an optimum weight or BMI. I spent years and years of my childhood DEFENDING my weight as a very tall and skinny girl. People called me ill and even questioned me about eating disorders for years, and it made me really self concious..
The press are witch-hunting anyone who is remotley less than ample weight, and we as a public are quick to pass judgement. I hope one day there will be more tolerance for women of all sizes.
76. ana's slave | November 28th, 2006 at 8:36 pm
ok…this is like very sad and every thing but you have to understand that it was in her proffession, she was a model and runway model and she was required to be very slim…this a competion…thinner iis winner…you cant be a ‘thick’ runway model…kate moss’ uber-sexy, super thin’ is like ‘normal size’ compared to some of the girls who walk down the catwalk…its not sad, its a fact of life…whats sad is people critizing models for being so f’ing thin…and blaming them…its not their fault its the MEDIA!!! they fuel the addiction…so dont go around saying sh!t coz its none of our biz!!!
77. Googolygoo | December 3rd, 2006 at 3:19 am
“http://vivirlatino.com/2006/08/08/debate-over-uruguayan-models-cause-of-death.php
So she didn’t have an eating disorder afterall!”
That’s not a news source. Cause of death is determined by the coroner, not the boyfriend.
78. ana's girl | December 3rd, 2006 at 6:04 pm
Hello, I am 20 years old and I am anorexic with bulimic tendancies…I just wanted to express my deep discontent with some of the comments on here related to the disease.
Anorexia is not a choice! Would you choose to cry when you walk past a mirror? Or to go to bed with the room spinning because you hadn’t eaten in a few days? Because I know I wouldn’t, but this is what I experience every day. I cannot eat like most people. When I do I feel sick and cry myself to sleep, and that’s only if I do not purge what I have just eaten. For people that this it is not a disease, how could someone who is about to faint because they haven’t eaten like the feeling? Feeling empty is a high for me and other people suffering from this disease. It makes me feel in control of something, when the rest of my life is out of my hands.
Anorexia is a mental disease. Perhaps it is not the same as being bi-polar because there is no chemical imbalance in the brain but it is all in the person’s head, much like depression. There are medicines for depression caused by chemical imbalances but then there are some people that are depressed and it has nothing to do with the need for medications, they just need to talk to someone.
So yes anorexic women should seek help but would you want to admit that you had such a problem? It is embarassing and even though you may not want to be obsessed with food all the time or sad all the time because of what you (think you) look like there is still something inside you is saying “I’m not thin enough yet, I’ll get help once I get just a little thinner. Just 5 more pounds.”
I don’t know. Some of the comments on here sound very…what’s the word…discriminatory and juging when you really have no experience to base those jugements on. I would compare it to being racial, or sexist, or homophobic.
I guess what I’m saying is that before you speak about something you should know more about it, and honestly, unless you’ve been here, been a slave to food and the scale, you can’t possibly know what you’re talking about. Maybe from a medical perspective you are absolutely correct in what you are saying but you can never really know. This is not something I would wish on anyone and believe me this is not my choice.
79. Jennifer Collier | December 5th, 2006 at 5:04 am
Well, you can always choose not to support the industry that promotes unhealthy thin-ness as a notion of beauty. It IS a notion of beauty. These notions change and are reflective of what is being marketed at the time as “beautiful.” No one is forcing anyone to buy the magazines that promote this unhealthy image and yet when you as the consumer buy them you send a direct message to marketers that this IS beauty.
I can think of no more lovely and beautiful image than that of a person who is loving and nurturing their body with good healthy organic well balanced meals and tons of confidence and the happiness that comes from both of those lifestyle choices.
80. jen | December 13th, 2006 at 1:43 am
Exactly, what is being marketed at the time–that’s why trends and fads are horrible things to follow! I don’t see it…I much more prefer a woman to have curves and to appear healthy, call me crazy! Naturally thin is lovely as well but to harm the body in this extreme way for something as shallow as fashion…aren’t there more important things to sacrifice one’s self for??
81. LILhay | December 14th, 2006 at 3:42 am
And to think that people call fat ugly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
82. Amy | December 15th, 2006 at 9:37 pm
Just an FYI, Gemma Ward’s modeling card says she’s a size 4.
83. seida | December 27th, 2006 at 12:57 am
It’s awful after i’ve seen and heard so much about what models will do just to make the designer happy not them selfs as an aspiring model myself i would never put my self so low that i would not eat for days looking gaunt frail like there about to pass. designers put alot pressure on the model before a show they have to be sized fitted etc berfore a show and when the show day is the clothing needs to fit in order for the clothing to be displayed properly for a one hour show there is about 2wk prep peirod where the models are called to come and be fitted 2wks to watch there weight awful and what is the point of having a size 0 clothing if the mojority of the world is 3 and up are the designers trying to save on fabric is the appropriate question and for what arn’t they rich and besides they save big when the poor people in 3rd world countries are sewing clothing for $1 dollar a day but they can pay models 1million a show if you don’t find something strange here I do all in all that’s why i’ve chosen not to be come a model but a designer to show the world the proper way to live.
god be with the family of the lost sole
84. Sylwia | January 1st, 2007 at 6:00 pm
It is so hard to believe that young woman can do that. I do not understand why nobady, even her famiy cannot see that and help her the best as they can.Anorexic women should seek help but nobody want to admit that had such a problem?
85. Ermmm | January 7th, 2007 at 5:31 pm
well, she dd have a choice, no one forced her into anorexia, she chose it bu no one deserves to die in such a way
86. ana | January 14th, 2007 at 9:00 am
Ana Carolina Reston was murdered for food industry propaganda
87. ana | January 14th, 2007 at 2:42 pm
and they will continue kill and poison more and more skinny model
88. mia | January 17th, 2007 at 4:49 pm
i think it is stupid, and disgusting. All you can see is there rib cage sticken out and drawn in face with huge eyes pocking out. Some of these gurls need to wake up, i don’t really feel sorry for them at all they chose not to eat therefore thats what happens. But i don’t blame all of them as there modelling agencies have told them to lose weight when they’re already skinny which is pathetic, also self conscience and depressed thinking they’re fat, all comes in to place.
But therefore it is so sad to see this happening in the modelling industry i hope that this gives young models a good wake up call telling them not to starve themselves. Geezzz especially ana carolina reston which was a tragic death and really sad to see. Anyone would think they come from ethiopia, those people are in desperate need of food, and dying of starvation. Some people don’t think how lucky we all.
89. victoria | January 21st, 2007 at 3:59 pm
I find it very disturbing that some people here think that her father could have or should have done “something”. Don’t tell me that you’ve never kept something from your parents. Did she live at home? She’s 22 years old. So she ate pizza. How do you know that she didn’t go and yack it out in the bathroom? Anything to keep a secret…. It is the media at large that I blame for these deaths - for continually telling young girls and boys how to look and what is “sexy”. And the public buys into it because guess what - if you want to look sexy that’s the only size they’ll sell in the shops so there must be something wrong with you if you can’t fit into their offerings. If you really want to change the mentality then don’t buy their clothes. Nothing brings a designer back to earth quicker than a failed “collection”.
90. Cool Breeze | January 21st, 2007 at 10:06 pm
I have a father who is rail thin. His very slender frame is the same as his father. And my sister is also rail thin. Not because of eating disorders for my father/sister as they eat pretty healthy and exercise regularly. My other sister (let’s call her Joan) has gained significant weight and her husband (let’s call him Steve) is obese to the point where several members of the extended family have told Joan of their great concern for Steve’s health. I must say that these are all sensitive topics. People don’t necessarily take it well when they are told in so many words that they are too fat or too skinny. In my case, I’m a guy in my 40s who is fairly athletic and in good shape. Guys can often gain or lose 10+ pounds and it won’t bother them much at all. Heavy weight and plenty of partying led to comedian John Candy’s early death yet he once said that being heavy/fat wasn’t bad in that it give him a large physical presence that was considered manly, or words to that effect.
Modeling is a hyper-competitive world and for young, beautiful women, they can lose sight of the big picture when they are glamourized, sometimes paid enormous amonts of money, and life is going very well. It’s ironic that many world-class female athletes who model on the side weigh upwards of 130-140 pounds. Women like Jenny Finch (softball) and Heather Mitts (soccer). These ladies no doubt lift weights (looking at their muscle tone and definiton) and are in great aerobic shape.
Solutions? I would offer that the top fashion designers should follow the trail blazed by owner Mark Cuban of the professional basketball (NBA) Dallas Mavericks. He provides his players ultra-nutritious, world-class meals/food, free of charge, and all the best-of-breed wellness tools (sauna, massage, exercise room, etc.) to help make them well-adjusted people happy with their lives and able to play their sport as best possible. Do a Google query and it will elaborate more on Cuban’s mindset regarding taking care of his players. If Armani, Lagenfeld, and others followed suit in the modeling world, perhaps some positive changes would follow.
CB
91. Amy | January 23rd, 2007 at 6:04 pm
The only people that know what truly happens inside the mind of an anorexic and bulimic are the ones who have experienced it! Fashion was probably just a push or a last straw that lead these girls to eating disorders. It is not just the fashion industry (however, they do need to change their standards of beauty), the families of these girls, or any one thing that causes anorexia or bulimia. It is culmination of several different things that trigger the want or need to commit slow suicide with anorexia or bulimia. We as a country are not just obese or skin and bones but we as a country are so obsessed with size that there is of course going to be two extremes! We all feed this in some way shape or form. I am just as much to blame as the next person. Maybe these girls will start to teach us that perfect doesn’t exist.
92. Michael Tandy | January 26th, 2007 at 2:58 pm
I think these models should be banned in London fashion week, otherwise more girls will do it for tat motivation.
93. jebodiah | January 26th, 2007 at 2:59 pm
cunt
94. Aggie | January 29th, 2007 at 12:15 am
Does anyone get confused?
Eat this, don’t eat that, you’re too thin, you’re too fat!
One is bad as is the other. The fact of the matter is that either way we live in a pretty screwed up society whereby even we don’t know what it is that we want.
Our own insecurities plague us and to add fuel to the fire we are bombarded with images of what it is that we should lookm like (even though those same magazines that promote such images scrutinize them). Go figure!
95. jess | February 14th, 2007 at 12:19 am
Luisel´s sister - Eliana, 18 y.o who was also a model,
was found dead at her home in Montevideo today.
96. drbukkake | February 14th, 2007 at 9:22 am
Her sister is dead too now. Remember models: it’s better to die young and thin than to get old and fat! If you are young and thin, men will look at you and want to have sex with you. If you are old and fat men don’t want to look at you and then sex is something you read about on the internet….
97. [emo]nkey | February 24th, 2007 at 4:38 am
i think that its really stupid what they’re doing to people.
im just 13, and I AM a 1.
someone who is in their 20s shouldn’t have sizes as those.
its just really unnatural.
but its what society wants.
i feel really sorry for her, she had a career and life in front of her.
98. [emo]nkey | February 24th, 2007 at 4:40 am
drbukkake,
watch your words unless you want to have innocent blood on your hands.
don’t spread that message.
check into a psychiatruc centre please.
99. Aggie | February 27th, 2007 at 10:54 pm
what did you mean by that comment drbukkake?
100. Marisol Duran | February 28th, 2007 at 4:43 pm
I am in middle school and I am doing a research paper on eating disorders and I think that it is horrible that females and sometimes men would want to put themselves through this horrible never ending pain. They look like walking skeletons if you ask me and I think that something needs to be done about it.
101. joellekatyasanwich | March 8th, 2007 at 7:45 pm
i think that all size zero models should be banned as it puts pressure on us young girlies
102. Toni | March 16th, 2007 at 1:07 pm
(Caitlin wrote: In response to Linda Morand, today almost all models are a size 4, not a 2. Also, no one is keeping these models from eating. Sure, modeling contributes to their eating disorders, but it’s not like someone is keeping food from them.)
Not the food… only work?
103. Martha | March 29th, 2007 at 12:58 am
I’m in college and happened to log into this website for research paper.How crazy can the model industry be!They are practically advertising anorexia! Also women, having a body of a little boy (with no attributes) is NOT CUTE at all!!!!! YOU ARE A WOMAN NOW meat in the right parts is ok!!
104. jenni | April 27th, 2007 at 11:23 pm
To the person who “clarified” the cause of Luisel’s death to NOT be from anorexia. Young girls don’t just slump over dead for no reason. She could have eaten pizza and then vomited it up. No one knows what really happened……
105. sally | April 28th, 2007 at 7:00 am
modeling does not cause an ED.
just like stressful jobs, annoying kids, or being a rock star does not cause drug addiction.
anorexia is a complex mental illness, not a fashion statement. hello???
if anything, maybe the connection is - body image/validation. like they got in to modeling in the first place due to an obsession with attention seeking, fear of intimacy, and fear of maturity. maybe it’s a chicke/egg thing.
and if someone picks up a vogue magazine, sees the ads, and then goes and vomits up their lunch, you can bet that was not vogue’s fault. millions of women every day read fashion mags and only a very small percent of the population (and a relatively unmoving number historically) have eating disorders.
again, it’s a complex mental illness, not merely a “desire to be thin.”
it’s suicide.
it’s self-hatred.
it’s cutting, w/o the razors.
it’s rage.
it’s something you wouldn’t understand unless you suffer from it.
it’s hell.
it’s not about looking pretty in clothes.
it’s about saying F YOU to the whole world.
106. Irene | June 9th, 2007 at 3:48 am
just wondering… why would a size 0 look good on a person who is 5′8? That is really disproportionate. I am a size 0/2, 5′4 and people always say that I am thin. So when they talk about models achieving the “elusive size 0″ , well, why would you even aim for that? That would look disgusting!
I agree that modelling does not cause an eating disorder. The problem is that most of these girls start SO YOUNG that they listen to what everyone is saying because they don’t know any better. Perhaps the parents of these kids should not let them go into this industry until they are at a more mature age, not 13/14 like many are starting at. I mean, really, they are still children at that age. What person didn’t feel insecure and do stupid things at that age because they were seeking approval. Once you get into a destructive pattern such as anorexia, it is usually only downhill from there.
I don’t blame these young kids from falling victim, but you gotta wonder…. how can you make thousands of dollars per hour (for not really doing much) and then turn yourself into a victim?
107. Vikki | June 30th, 2007 at 10:13 pm
Im 14 and am naturally slim and I’M a size zero. That has to be a wake up call. Im doing a project for science class on the dangers of size zero and it is it just another word fro anorexia and this is os shocking. I heard elsewhere she was living off lettuce leaves and diet coke for 3 months before her death and her agency told her she could be big if she lost a substantial amount of weight! That is ridiculous here bmi was 14.5 and 16 is considered to be stavation! This should be a warning to all aspiring models not to follow in the desinger cad footsteps of this modern tragedy!
108. Laura | July 15th, 2007 at 8:05 am
this is just wrong i cant believe what the modelling industrie requires women to be
109. Laura | July 15th, 2007 at 8:11 am
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110. v | October 9th, 2007 at 2:28 am
models are super thin and really tall with small boobs, and us men finds all 3 traits to be rather ugly.
111. v | October 9th, 2007 at 2:38 am
actually on second thought, small tits are kinda hot
112. amy. | November 20th, 2007 at 10:36 pm
I’m sorry, but in a world with plentiful amounts of food, we have people starving in third world countries. These girls are starving themselves. They have access to how much food they want and i find it quite selfish that these people are doing this to themselves, and are starting to look like starving children in disadvantaged countries. appauling.
113. mike shank | February 22nd, 2008 at 10:41 pm
people need to focus on their mind to be healthy, not their body. With a healthy mind, the body follows. I use NLP to keep my mind buzzing, that and provigil
I am currently working towards an NLP Master Practitioner Certification.well to be honest, NLP and learning Seduction Techniques
114. Ciara | March 14th, 2008 at 7:16 am
Just like there are people who are genetically skinny, there are people who have really bad health conditions that make them overweight or obese like thyroid or other metabolic problems.Though not all people who are overweight or obese have these issues. I think we all have a problem with what is healthy and what isn’t and the only reason why is because we each have a different perception of what is healthy and what isn’t. My family is naturally chunky, and I have tried hard to be healthy. I have bulimia. I’ve also weigh a healthy weight for my height and weight according to the standards of the bmi index. But being a healthy weight doesn’t mean that you’re healthy. I’m not healthy and I’ll admit eating disorders are Americas problem. I’m not just saying anorexia and bulimia, I’m specifically targeting compulsive over eating. We cannot change what other people think, and some people are going to be skinny, just like some other people will eat one thing and feel their ass jiggle for a week, and either way I have no right to judge them. I think we should look to help people with any eating disorder with compassion instead of judgement. People are dying everyday in one of the richest countries in the world because we are never satisfied. You can look at satisfied in whatever way you might, but for a anorexic or bulimic it might be the strive to feel fine in their bodies, safe in their skin. For an over eater it might mean stuffing their unpleasant emotions down by stuffing their feelings down with food. Notice how I used “might” these are possibilities of the reasons for some of these issues not generalizations.
I think it is important that everyone know how much they influence other people, especially their children. Watch out what you say to them, and if someone in your family has an eating disorder help them. Be there for them even if you’re just listening. Eating disorders kill, and if you don’t believe me check out http:// http://www.somethingfishy.org
115. Mark D | April 5th, 2008 at 1:43 pm
Does no-one commenting in this forum REALISE that people who are looking at the models are not looking at what they are supposed to? If fashion where about the models, we would be popping into Gucci to buy a person! Does anyone here go into a clothes shop and look at the hangers, thinking ‘ooo, thats a nice hanger, I want to be just like it’? NO!!! And that is what these models are! Hangers!
I believe that models SHOULD be skinny. But, naturally skinny. The problem is, back in the day, models were PICKED. they looked that way NATURALLY. Now, girls see it as a career CHOICE, and try to fit themselves into that mould! Someone need to sit these girls down and say ‘honey, if ya too fat, ya too fat. deal with it. love yourself, go be a lawyer!’
In no way am i saying this to be derogatory, i myself was a model. Male, and 6ft 1 weighing 10stone, my bmi is underweight. I modelled during the dior ‘herionj chic’ phase. BUT it is natural! I eat, I work out, its just the way i am. i was PICKED, didnt strive to be a model. Thats the way it should work. These girls and their families are to blame, if you ask me.
116. B.A. | June 2nd, 2008 at 9:10 pm
It’s sad but this is happening more and more often. These girls are extremely under weight. Some of them are like 5′11″ and they are supposed to weigh from 125lbs-148lbs on the HeightandWeight Scale and some of them weigh like 109lbs which is extremely unhealthy. When they are that thin some of them stop having periods, their hair and teeth could fall out, because their bodies are basically going into starvation. Now I want to become a model I am 5′10 and I weigh 125lbs, I am naturally skinny and I have a lot of muscle so I have no fat and what’s funny is that I love food and I have an A+ in the eating department! I eat almost all the time but I excersie regularly and I drink lots of water. I really do think that’s its gross that these girls purposely do this to themselves just to stay that sickly thin. They really do not understand the danger that are putting their bodies in and it makes me upset to see what happens to them. But, they know already its their choice not to do that to themselves.
117. kristina | July 8th, 2008 at 11:18 pm
this is such a sad story, there really needs to be more help out there, its not just happening to famous people, but normal children as young as 7
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